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She opened for Bon Jovi and played in the UK since her last appearance on NHTE. A California-based singer, songwriter, guitar player who performed at the Winter 2019 NAMM Show and has a new full-length album on the way, likely this year, with the project mastered by Bernie Grundman ("Thriller," "Tapestry," "Jagged Little Pill"). She talks about live streaming (particularly LiveMe) and about wineries being a resource for subsidizing your tour.

Notable Guest Quotes

"I think it's really important for music to be approachable."

"If I can't sing I don't really know why I'm on earth."

"I think if you're trying to have a career as a musician and you plan on doing this as your either livelihood or part of your livelihood and you want people to like your music to support it with their hard-earned green stuff... you need to pay attention to what people are saying."

"Unless you're playing the song live you don't have that few minutes to explain to people what the song's about and it changes their perception."

"One of the things I heard once at a... master class was if you're going to curse in one of your songs, the entire song becomes about that curse word."

(Opening for Bon Jovi) "I wanted to be the worst person on stage.  I was like, If someone's going to make a mistake it's going to be me."

"Having done this for such a long time, it gets very disheartening when you're putting effort forward and you're not really seeing the results, but that tends to be what the business is like.  You don't really get tangible results right away.  And I kind of just like to think, okay, well, I'm going to just keep showing up and keep trying."

"Facebook... notifies your followers if you go live.  And the algorithm of Facebook definitely pushes live video.  So, I really recommend Facebook Live for anyone trying to build their following."

"I've started to do more covers, which has actually been kind of interesting because I've realized how much that's helped my own writing and my guitar playing and just, you're always learning something new.  It's deeper when you're learning the song."

Songs on this episode

"Most The While"
"The Lion"