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Best known for being the bass player for Pat Benatar well over 20 years, including touring and recording. He also worked as an arranger on Prince’s “Under the Cherry Moon” and served in the same capacity with Bobby Caldwell. His touring/recording credits are a virtual who’s who in music, ranging from David Foster to Sheryl Crow to Martina McBride, John Fogerty, and many, many more. And, if all his music endeavors aren’t enough, he is even the owner of a pizzeria!

Notable Guest Quotes

"I was raised very much in a Sicilian family style, so I was real accustomed to great food all the time.  And then as I got older and I was going on the road I would have good pizza and I would have horrible pizza.  And so I just became really intrigued by it and started to really think about it because I always wanted to open up a pizzeria."

"It's very much an artistic performance kind of perspective when you're making pizza.  It accomplishes almost the same thing as playing a great song for somebody in the fact that they enjoy it and they get into it and they love it and they compliment you and you're doing something good for people."

"Pat (Benatar) walks in the room and she goes, 'Let me see your socks' and so I showed her my socks, they were white socks, and she goes, 'You got white socks.  You're from Ohio.  You're in the band.'  And that was it.  So, 25 years later... I'm still here wearing the white socks and playing in the band."

"Every audition is different.  You never know what's going to get thrown at you."

"I wouldn't say there's any job security in the music business because you never know, ya' know, many, many artists change bands routinely just to get fresh blood in there, some people last, some people don't...  I don't think any musician has job security.  It's a tough business."

"I think if you do a good job for an artist and you show up and you're sober and they know that they can rely on you that you're going to play at least the biggest percentage of correct notes and play their music with some sort of soul factor in there and do a good job for 'em, why wouldn't they want you back?"

"I would say to anybody that wants to get in the music business, know your stuff, and know the artist's music as best you can, know it inside and out, 'cause you never know what they're going to call, and just do the right thing."

"When you're off the road then you're doing sessions or you're writing television music or you're teaching.  It's a myriad of different things.  It's not any one thing that supports you."

"I've never missed a Pat Benatar gig, even with two births, of my kids, I was fortunate enough to fly back here to L.A. and be present for both (of) the births."

"The role of bass player just appealed to me.  I don't mind playing repetition of themes and things like that and you have to have that mindset to be a bass player."

Songs on this episode

"She's Gone Away"
"Strangers In Love"