A singer/songwriter with 1.5 million YouTube subscribers, she released a 14-song album last year and then five months later put out the first in a four-part EP series. She talks about how headlining a tour was different – a learning experience – from being an opening act, and why she doesn’t have immediate plans to get back on the road. Originally from Colorado, she also discusses why she left L.A. to move to Nashville as well as why she could be considered an advocate.
"There's just something about being comfortable with people in a studio or on-set that just, like, makes the entire experience way better."
"Touring is a huge thing. If you don't do it right, I mean, even if you do do it right a lot of the time you can lose a lot of money. It's physically exhausting. Whether you're in a van or in a bus you're with the same however many people for an extended period of time. And so it can weigh on you emotionally, physically, and financially."
"If you don't love performing, if you don't love touring, you don't have to do it."
"In the first five or so years of my career I didn't really have a purpose that I was aware of. I wasn't sure why I was doing it. I just kind of accidentally fell into this... I just kind of expected that, 'If I'm in this industry my goal is to be the next Taylor Swift.' ... And that was what I was aiming for and I felt that anything less than that was just not worth it or if I didn't reach that I was on my way to feeling embarrassed. But I've had to unlearn that so much."
"I feel like the life of an artist can be so insular and kind of just self-absorbed."
"I was living at home still and I was making more money than I could know what to do with."
"At the time I was doing it, it was a lot easier for you to start a YouTube channel and actually get seen. Now it's just so over-concentrated; that combined with the algorithms, it's a lot harder now."
"I was in L.A. for three-ish years and the short story would just be, it was soul sucking and I needed to get out."
"Too Far"
"Showing Up"