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Award-winning singer, songwriter, guitar player who just last month put out a seven-song EP. She is also beginning work on a new album as well as a separate EP, both of which she talks about here. She regularly travels back and forth to Nashville and was named “One to Watch” by Nashville Songwriters Association International in Spring 2021 and Spring 2022. Earlier this month she took home the silver for “USA Entertainer of the Year” at the 2023 International Singer-Songwriters Association awards. Her top five songs on Spotify alone have a combined total of almost 440 thousand streams and she has more than 13 thousand monthly listeners on that platform.

Notable Guest Quotes

“I think everybody with pop culture today, and especially if you’re on social media in any form, you’ve probably scrolled through and seen the big ‘ol’ TW signs, or Trigger Warning signs that pop up basically for anything that could cause emotional distress.”

“Music is a bridge, anyway, between people.”

“I think you have to figure out ways of – not really setting yourself apart, I mean, yes, that’s important – but also just being relevant to what’s happening in society today because I think that people kind of need a reason to listen to you a lot of times and to trust you especially with things.”

“My whole thought with music is, I want people to realize, like, hey, I’ve been there too.  I’ve been hurt...  I want to be relatable, if nothing else.”

“Where you are right now is not where you’re gonna be in a year.  Just keep going.”

“There was just a lot that had occurred in ministry that left me very, very broken, to say the least, to the point that I thought maybe music is just not even what I’m supposed to be doing.”

“With co-writing, I have to be very comfortable with somebody or at least know them a little bit.”

“As far as recording, that is definitely something that I’ve thought about for the future projects to think about recording in Nashville.  Because I think the more you work with people, the more you network, the more you experience other people’s ear for certain things, you kind of learn your own style too.”

“Last year I was actually nominated for six (ISSA Awards), I think… and this year… I was nominated for seven different categories.”

“It’s very easy to put out music and kind of sit in your bedroom and hope nobody gives you criticism, but it’s different when you’re actually going out and you’re playing shows every other day.”

“I grew up sort of being told, this is not realistic… If you didn’t fit that mold, you were kind of told, ‘Oh, you can’t be a country singer’.”

“None of us are supposed to be doing this life by ourself.  We’re not supposed to be these perfect individuals walking around.  Everybody has something that you struggle with.”

“When you’re passionate about something and when you wanna do something, you make it work.”

“I kinda feel like I’m in a relationship with both music and my husband.  Because, you have to divide that time out.”

“The people that make it and are doing something, it’s because they’re being themself… Your audience is going to know if you’re being real or not.  And I think that there’s something to be said for being vulnerable and showing that you are human.”

Songs on this episode

“Trigger Warning”
“Curious”